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good afternoon everybody um

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my name is ron systerick i'm here today

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because i'm passionate about the martian

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i'm passionate about landing humans on

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mars and frankly i've volunteered before

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i had any idea what i was getting into

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so

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but seriously though i'm really glad to

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be able to join you and talk about mars

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it's it's it's fun stuff and it's the

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future so

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let's talk a little bit about uh let's

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talk about mars

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when i first came uh to nasa i always

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wanted to to

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when i was growing up i thought mars was

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great i wanted to go to mars right i

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want to send people to mars when i first

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came to nasa i got an opportunity to

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work as a co-op and at the time we were

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developing

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uh entry systems for humans to mars and

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the plan is 25 years humans to mars

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well

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about 20 years later i'm still here

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we're working entry systems for humans

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tomorrow the plan is 25 years humans to

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mars right

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okay

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so

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we want to get that closer right we want

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to bring that 25-year number down we

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want to we want to bring it get it down

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to funding cycles or something like that

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so close that gap if you will and so i'd

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like to tell you today about some of the

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things that i'm doing personally to try

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first let's talk about the martian so

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the martian and the book and for those

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who haven't read it don't worry i'm not

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going to spoil it this happens in the

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first five pages but

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in the book the crew lands on mars in

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the mars descent vehicle or the mdv

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and it's described as

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uh in one sentence

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i hope andy aware doesn't mind too much

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maybe he can uh call me for his next

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book or something uh

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seriously though uh so let's let's talk

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about mars for real

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mars is different than earth as we know

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the atmosphere is different

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it's mostly co2 but what's really

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important for as far as we're concerned

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with mars landing

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is that the density is much less it's

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it's about one percent of the density of

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earth of earth

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so what that means think about that

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which is over three times the height of

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mount everest there's just not a lot of

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air density sorry not air mars what not

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density to work with

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okay so most of you probably know but

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why do we care

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we use drag to slow down the spacecraft

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in mars and that drag force is

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proportional to the density so if the

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density goes down 100 times the drag

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force goes down 100 times so it's a

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challenge just to slow something down in

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at the same time there's still enough

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density to create significant heating so

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we have the same kind of thermal protect

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protection system concerns that you

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would have for an earth vehicle and we

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use a blade of tps to uh

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to keep the

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the payloads and the astronauts safe of

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get a feel for the density difference

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there's constructed example here so

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imagine in a skydiver

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at earth no parachute so they're going

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to have a bad day probably when they hit

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the ground but they'd only hit the

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ground at 120 miles per hour

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at mars it's a mach 1.5 so

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not only would they hit the ground

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really hard but you wouldn't even hear

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them scream until after they hit they

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cured the thump so you know it's it's a

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big challenge

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uh unless you get worried about the rest

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of the presentation this is not the

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proposed system for landing humans on

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okay i've convinced you probably that

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it's a challenge but we know how to land

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on mars right we've done it seven times

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uh most recently being the curiosity

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rover the mars science laboratory msl

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uh so while we're on the chart i have

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you note also that they're a relatively

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low elevation landing sites now these

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what have we landed there

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things that look some of them look like

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this mars pathfinder is the small rover

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the medium size golf cart type of rovers

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are a spirit and opportunity and

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curiosity is the large one there so

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to some people so that gives you a feel

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the entry vehicles that we put those

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rovers in are depicted here in the on

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the plot and so

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you can kind of see

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roughly how what the size is

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and they've used the same basic

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technologies that were first developed

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for viking program and that's the 70

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degree sphere cone aeroshell shape

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and the mars supersonic disc gap band

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those technologies are not the ones that

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will scale well for the kinds of human

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missions we need to send to mars let me

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tell you a bit about why

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imagine the curiosity rover as a unit

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and the closest thing i could find

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through an internet search was a smart

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for our human missions they're much

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larger right we're talking about 20 to

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so that's 20 to 40 smart cars each time

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we land so that gives you a feel for the

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also to give you a feel

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imagine now this is roughly two scale so

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entry vehicle for humans so they're much

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much bigger

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wait a minute why do i want to land

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something big why don't i just land a

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bunch of small stuff right instead

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kind of go through all the different

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reasons but i wanted to at least address

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the landing accuracy part of the part of

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for mars has steadily improved as you

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viking had a fairly large landing

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ellipse and it's gotten better

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smaller folks worked hard on this

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getting it down to the size and

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curiosity but it's still here 12 by 4

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miles right so imagine instead of

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sending all the smart cars all at once

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we're going to send 20 to 40 smart cars

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in fact that's not the total mass we

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need for the mission but you get you get

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the picture and then we'll send people

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scenario well when we send the crew

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they're going to need all the things

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right they're going to need life support

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really really capable rover to go over

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such a large area

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not to mention the other concern with um

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the system that's going to have to send

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because of all the large components that

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need to come with it

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and so the smart folks who work the edl

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architecture trades figured out that the

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sweet spot for the total number of

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landings is two to four and that's what

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drives the large masses i've been i've

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nasa is not sitting idle we're hard at

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work on some different technologies that

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uh help

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address each of the things i've talked

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the first one is low density supersonic

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decelerator so if you've heard of the

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flying saucer test that's this

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this is about incremental capability

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improvements to current robotic mission

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capabilities so instead of landing one

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metric sun on mars we'll land two metric

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tons on mars or we'll go land at the

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all hat near and dear to my heart i

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worked on it for six years great project

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it's the autonomous landing and hazard

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avoidance technology project

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all hats addressing the landing accuracy

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of two things the other aspect

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is knowing what's at the landing area

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knowing the landing site are there

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hazards are there assets that are

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entry hypersonic entry there's basically

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the large blunt body shape so the defl

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deployables and inflatables and the

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type of application but it may relate on

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that but the idea here is you'd package

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the shroud and then

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then you could otherwise stuff into a

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technology work and i'm personally

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working on this so here you see two of

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the idea here is

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extra lift to drag ratio to do some

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useful things for the mission

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as compared to uh this is why we call it

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mid is because this is compared to the

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low lrvd blunt bodies or capsules

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but the the mid-already is not as high

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already as say something

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like a wing vehicle like the shuttle

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delivery is about 0.5 to 0.6 so why do

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about the lrvd that was really helpful

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manage the landing the entry loads so

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investigation but i'd like to just talk

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what edl looks like entry descent

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and as it gets closer to the ground this

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this concept shows a transition in which

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the aeroshell splits and a lander

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emerges and the lander would do a power

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descent burn beginning from a supersonic

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condition and come down and land the

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payload or crew

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all the concepts are under investigation

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almost all the concepts under

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investigation have us have an initiation

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point for this powered burn a supersonic

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mach number

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there are a few that can get it to

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subsonic but they're we're talking

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really large probably in feasible types

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of

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hopefully i've given you a feel for the

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challenge of mars

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but we didn't talk about how to close

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the gap

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and so that's what i'd like to talk

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about next so

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before we test anything or fly it at

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mars or use it we would we would develop

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it and test it here on earth

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and i've been involved in doing some of

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that

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i've described to you and joined forces

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with the mariah capsule project to do

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subsystem development and testing

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for um that would be applicable to

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bunch of testing here we're getting

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ready for a test

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this picture cracks me up so i included

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got the data on that one good day

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recovered that one as well

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some shoe testing

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and high altitude balloon tests

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which takes us to

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the the trv the terrestrial return

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vehicle which is the earth demonstration

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version of our middle level d shape

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so i'm really excited about what the

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work that i'm getting to do on this it's

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fantastic uh

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this is this will be a four foot version

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of that 20 to 30 meter uh long air shell

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that i described to you it will fly uh

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late

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next year so we're developing right now

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it's

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it would go up onto the space station to

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pull out the gem airlock as i mentioned

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like the mariah capsule but passive

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deploy

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does a separation passively gets a safe

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distance away

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does a deorbit burn uh enters and lands

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on a pair foil for an accurate landing

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so super exciting project uh we're

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working we're working on it right now

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and uh we're we're really excited about

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so i'd like to close with a personal

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story if i can get the slide to change

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this picture is

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near and dear to me of all the testing

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we've done

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and development testing this one is

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just my favorite

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it's from our very first test so

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we're high altitude balloon test we're

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doing so i was doing some prototype work

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out at the sandbox here

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to develop this system and then working

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with a couple of the co-ops who are

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willing to do this crazy thing with me

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we've done some testing here i took it

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home

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painted it this ugly orange color that

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was not my choice it was for recovery

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in my garage at home

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stuck in my freezer did a cold soak test

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and my wife was telling people there's a

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spaceship in my freezer it wasn't a

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spaceship yet but it became one this

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picture is evidence right

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uh but the the best thing about it i got

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to involve my then three-year-old son

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and so we we took the system in the

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backyard and we were very safe

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but we did parachute deployment testing

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and so

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i had him and he and i did a countdown

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from 10

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and he hit the button and the parachute

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would pop out and at first it

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only went this far it wasn't very

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impressive but with some design tweaks

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and changes i got the thing to work

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pretty well and it worked great in

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flight

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uh and i got to bring this picture home

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and show my son and say look what you

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helped make happen

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so it was just it was just a great

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experience so i i hope that um

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someday we can say that the same kinds

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of things

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about